Magi AU Bunnies: Part One

Yes, I said Part One. Just this section is three pages in my word processor so there will be more in another post.

Remember that this for an Alternate Universe and my relationship with any show’s canon is always strained.

Solomon was not stupid. He knew perfectly well that not everyone was going to be cool with what he did and planned to do. Some of those unhappy people might decide to do something about it, and that something might be violent.

He knew one of those people was David. Who Solomon knew was {1} extremely powerful, {2} could be very charming when he wanted to be and therefore capable of drawing those unhappy people under his banner, and {3} completely crazy. He also knew that most people don’t notice that last one until it was way too late for them to escape or they have somehow (there might be mind control involved) been convinced that he is the sane one and everyone disagreeing with them are the lunatics who must be stopped.

So he made plans. Lots and lots of plans. Lots of “worse case scenario” speculation. Often with Ugo. Sometimes with Sheba or Arba.

So he wasn’t exactly surprised when his father and Al-Thamen 1.0 did the thing with the Medium. Rather he was surprised by the scale of destruction and violence they were willing to go to. After all, most people don’t try to destroy the planet they are living on! At least not intentionally.

And Solomon was surprised that Arba turned on him (and thank spirits, she wasn’t involved in ALL the planning meetings and discussions).

For the purposes of this AU, Solomon didn’t actually created a new world but simply found a viable planet.

Maybe strengthing the magoi ley lines, etc and such so the world could support the kind of magic he wanted it to took some time – which is why the real action didn’t start until the series proper.

To accomplish the above, Solomon merged his soul with the rukh of the new planet, becoming a guardian spirit for it and it’s inhabitants. (Which in this AU is how the Wisdom of Solomon omnipresence thing works).

Not that Al-Thamen was resting on their laurels. And Arba knew enough about the plans to start herself and the minions sabotaging them as much as possible.

But neither Ugo or Solomon are dirt stupid and changed as much as the plan as they could before things went completely pear-shaped.

The bunnies are leaning toward Sheba pulling a Ugo in her dying moments. Or after her death (“If that Arba thinks killing me is all it takes to get rid of me, does she having another thing coming.”). They are leaning toward her doing something with a certain Magi who is not her son but who really needs someone not evil looking after him.

Ugo reminds Yunan that it is okay that he is tired but allowing Al-Thamen free reign means that he is effectively doing half the work of destroying the world himself.

SINBAD IS NOT DAVID’S REINCARNATION!

A Dungeon Capturer is simply someone who {1} currently* has enough magoi to support at least one Djinn, {2} went through all of the dungeon’s obstacles, fought its monsters, answered the riddles, and jumped through all of the various hoops the Djinn set up to test them, {3} did not die in the process and {4} formed a magical contract with the Djinn.

*If Magi and magicians can increase their personal amount of magoi through exercise and such, I don’t see why other people who use magoi in this setting can’t.

Kings, which the bunnies are thinking about calling the Chosen of Solomon to avoid confusion with the monarch kings running around this setting, are a different kettle of fish. Characteristics include {1} extremely sensitive to rukh, both to the planetary rukh and personal rukh of others – they cannot usually see it but they can feel it. {2} are empaths – it’s part of why they can be so charming. {3}limited clairvoyance and limited foresight, {4} possess an immense capacity (if not always amount) for personal magoi and manipulating magoi energies, {5} are masters of their own destiny – they largely determine their own path in life through that doesn’t stop the rukh from throwing problems in their path – and have a limited ability to alter the path for others through their bonds with them, {6} form magical bonds with their people. These bonds make them especially sensitive to their people’s pain but also has other benefits.

Current proposed Chosen are: Sinbad, Alibaba, Hakuryuu, and Kouha.
The low numbers is simply that Al-Thamen usually kills the Chosen as soon as they find them. If they are already too powerful to kill outright, they do their best to shatter them into a million pieces so that they are either unable to fight, kill themselves, or fall into depravity.

Any suggestions for King Candidates / Chosen: Like Maybe Rashid?

Note that one of the people they form those bonds with are their Djinn. These connections are much harder to break or completely block than the simple contract shared by a Capturer and their Djinn.

The bunnies have proposed that full on Al-Thamen cannot enter a Dungeon and cannot form a contract with a Djinn. That’s why they either work through intermediaries and have to create their own Dark Djinn.

They also like the idea of ALL of the Djinn’s towers appearing around the world at once overnight like mushrooms.

The Magi who were active were doing their best to clear away Al-Thamen plots before they created another Medium.

The bunnies are toying with the idea that most people are aware they aren’t entirely human. Some people handle this knowledge better than others. Some look down on others for not being “pure” enough – either too human, not enough human, or too much of a mixed bag.

If magic is a thing in this world, maybe some things are magically reinforced. Like oaths and wills or things that declare one child the heir over older two . . .

Slaves, especially ones known to be physically powerful (like Fanalis) or possessing magic (like magicians or Dungeon capturers), are chained with special shackles that restrict their magoi and largely prevent them from accessing it. Or draining it like the chains in “Around.”

Some character names might need be adjusted or changed to actually make sense. For instance, since the Kou Empire is very clearly modeled on Imperial China, they propose Hakuryuu Ren is actually Ren Bailong.

Timeline is going to be shuffled around to allow for travel times and such but mostly to give characters’ relationships the time they needed to develop properly (more on that in Part Two).

Some of the bunnies want crossover potential. They have two they keep bringing up:
One of which is because we have people claiming to be gods and those people are violent megalomaniacs and who does that remind us of?
The other is why they want Hakuryuu’s name to be romanized differently.

8 thoughts on “Magi AU Bunnies: Part One

  1. All interesting ideas but I worry that you are changing too much at once like changing a main character’s name just because you dislike it. I feel like it might just be a better idea to use Magi as inspiration for an original fic instead of trying to balance Magi cannon and your ideas. But this is just my opinion and I have little idea of how that idea would change the writing so feel free to ignore it.

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    1. Some of the ideas probably won’t be kept . . . brainstorming usually involves a lot of stuff and then a lot of tossing and prunning.

      I don’t dislike Hakuryuu’s name – just curious about why the author used the Japanese pronunciation instead of the Chinese when Kou is so heavily influenced by China.

      But it would be far less confusing for the readers to keep the character names the same. Even the others that are very much “as long as it sounds foreign” – which the Kou Empire largely isn’t but there is a lot of it in the show. So that is an idea will most likely get tossed.

      Especially since it might just be the part of my brain that likes to procrastinate trying to plug in a huge time sink into the pre-writing process.

      Edit: Typo, clarification

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    1. Thanks for responding. Mostly how it works (for me, others may vary) is write down a bunch of crazy ideas, then figure out if any of said crazy ideas can actually work and how. Then write, where things might change again but I just go with it because a lot of the times those last-minute directions for the muse turn out to be great.

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  2. > After all, most people don’t try to destroy the planet they are living on! At least not intentionally.

    Word. That… really makes the bunnies want to facepalm. How, in all the worlds, do they get the thousands of people it’s implied are in Al-Thamen to all want to destroy the world? That’s just… creepy.

    >For the purposes of this AU, Solomon didn’t actually created a new world but simply found a viable planet.

    Info I had from canon said that’s actually what Ugo did – found another world they could move the survivors to, including a piece of the old planet apparently physically moved to the new world, which is where the beast-form Fanalis are.

    >To accomplish the above, Solomon merged his soul with the rukh of the new planet, becoming a guardian spirit for it and its inhabitants. (Which in this AU is how the Wisdom of Solomon omnipresence thing works).

    Canon, Solomon did indeed merge his will with that of the rukh, which is why it’s white instead of black. Before that, all rukh was black, carrying the will of Il Ilah, and all magicians (pretty much all humans) could theoretically use as much power as a magi. Which may be part of how Al-Thamen pulls people in; being able to use that much power has to be very, very tempting.

    …Huh. And now bunnies are wondering if they can use black rukh to make non-magicians able to use magic. Eep. That’d be an interesting way to get recruits!

    >The bunnies are leaning toward Sheba pulling a Ugo in her dying moments.

    Sheba as a Djinn or a reincarnate would be kind of cool.

    …I’m going to shamelessly admit I think Dantalion is really, really cool-looking, shark-toothed smile and all, Leraje likewise, and some of my smuttier bunnies really wonder about the mental effects of having a Djinn the opposite sex from you.

    Ahem. *Tries to whistle innocently.* Bunnies, if you want Djinn Equip smut, I need a plot….

    > They are leaning toward her doing something with a certain Magi who is not her son but who really needs someone not evil looking after him.

    Sheba patting Yunan on the head and kicking him in the pants would be in line with what we know of her character from canon!

    >SINBAD IS NOT DAVID’S REINCARNATION!

    I’ll go with that!

    >*If Magi and magicians can increase their personal amount of magoi through exercise and such, I don’t see why other people who use magoi in this setting can’t.

    Works!

    >Kings, which the bunnies are thinking about calling the Chosen of Solomon to avoid confusion

    I have to admit, “King Candidates” does get a bit confusing. Still… the Djinn refer to magi choosing kings. I’m not sure all of them grasp that there are kings out there not chosen by a magi!

    > include {1} extremely sensitive to rukh, both to the planetary rukh and personal rukh of others – they cannot usually see it but they can feel it. {2} are empaths – it’s part of why they can be so charming. {3}limited clairvoyance and limited foresight, {4} possess an immense capacity (if not always amount) for personal magoi and manipulating magoi energies, {5} are masters of their own destiny – they largely determine their own path in life through that doesn’t stop the rukh from throwing problems in their path – and have a limited ability to alter the path for others through their bonds with them, {6} form magical bonds with their people. These bonds make them especially sensitive to their people’s pain but also has other benefits.

    Hmm. List of characteristics seems a bit like overkill, though. I’d go for 1, 2, and possibly 4. Sinbad’s ability to “read” the right course of action in the rukh is supposed to be unique to him. And between 2 and 4, you’d get the effects of 6.

    > The low numbers is simply that Al-Thamen usually kills the Chosen as soon as they find them.

    Now that I could buy; especially since three of the four were born into, shall we say, circumstances that made them easy to overlook until it was way too late. Hakuryuu’s the exception – but given Arba either always was his mother or possessed his mother, she apparently thought she had him under control. Brrr.

    >Any suggestions for King Candidates / Chosen: Like Maybe Rashid?

    Cassim comes to mind. Outside of that… huh. Not a lot of canon personalities who might fit the bill.

    >The bunnies have proposed that full on Al-Thamen cannot enter a Dungeon and cannot form a contract with a Djinn.

    Hmm. Depends how you define that – we do know in canon that Judar, after Falling into Depravity, was able to enter Belial’s dungeon. Then again, he’s a magi.

    >They also like the idea of ALL of the Djinn’s towers appearing around the world at once overnight like mushrooms.

    All 72 of them? Eep. Because for one thing, it’s implied that as long as a dungeon is “up”, people are going into it and getting killed. Amon’s dungeon, canon, had killed over 10,000 people in ten years. Ow.

    >The bunnies are toying with the idea that most people are aware they aren’t entirely human.

    That would be interesting, given in canon most people have no reason to believe they’re anything but human. If so… yeah, bunnies say Alibaba’s still a headache-inducing mutt. 🙂

    >If magic is a thing in this world, maybe some things are magically reinforced. Like oaths and wills or things that declare one child the heir over older two . . .

    Hmm. If you want that to fit in the canon framework, that should take a magician or Magic Tool involved. Mind, both of those should be possible!

    >Slaves, especially ones known to be physically powerful (like Fanalis) or possessing magic (like magicians or Dungeon capturers), are chained with special shackles that restrict their magoi and largely prevent them from accessing it.

    Ouch! But plausible; though apparently Al-Thamen has most of the knowledge of how to make Magic Tools. (Which, again, argh, people haven’t figured some of that out on their own in a thousand years? Sigh.)

    >Some of the bunnies want crossover potential. They have two they keep bringing up: One of which is because we have people claiming to be gods and those people are violent megalomaniacs and who does that remind us of?

    Al-Thamen vs. System Lords. Round one!

    >The other is why they want Hakuryuu’s name to be romanized differently.

    Hmm. With that you’d have to look for contrasting tone; Magi tends to have heroes trying not to kill anybody, while the other fandom… is kind of casual about violence. Messy!

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    1. How, in all the worlds, do they get the thousands of people it’s implied are in Al-Thamen to all want to destroy the world? That’s just… creepy.

      Yeah. The bunnies aren’t sure that all those people were involved of their own free will. It wouldn’t be out of character for the major players to do something like that.

      Re: Solomon, Solomon’s Mergetion, and Moving Planets

      Oh good, that doesn’t have to fiddled with at all to work. Nifty!

      And now bunnies are wondering if they can use black rukh to make non-magicians able to use magic.

      My bunnies are also intrigued by this possibility. They think it is quite likely.

      Sheba as a Djinn or a reincarnate would be kind of cool.

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      Sheba patting Yunan on the head and kicking him in the pants would be in line with what we know of her character from canon!

      And we have our prime candidate for applying boot to Yunan. And it’s someone who will be persistent and he isn’t likely to turn into a frog or something. Or be able to avoid successfully.

      SINBAD IS NOT DAVID’S REINCARNATION!
      I’ll go with that!

      Another grin

      Re: Kings and King Candidates

      Maybe have the other term(s) come up when someone (or several someones) point out to the Djinn that is a little confusing.
      “What do you mean there are kings out there not chosen by a Magi?”
      “Sigh.”

      Re: King Candidate Powers

      Sticking to 1, 2, and 4 with 2 and 4 giving them the effects of 6.

      See this is why the bunnies sometimes to be told “Woo hold up there.”

      Sinbad’s ability to “read” the right course of action in the rukh is supposed to be unique to him.

      Forgot about that. It gives a good reason for why Al-Thamen would be so focused on getting rid of him in particular.

      Bunnies think that maybe another reason for stepping up their game during Sinbad’s lifetime was the concern that he wasn’t going to the only King Candidate born with that ability in the history.

      > The low numbers is simply that Al-Thamen usually kills the Chosen as soon as they find them.
      Now that I could buy; especially since three of the four were born into, shall we say, circumstances that made them easy to overlook until it was way too late. Hakuryuu’s the exception – but given Arba either always was his mother or possessed his mother, she apparently thought she had him under control. Brrr.

      Re: Arba and Hakuryuu

      I’m thinking that she believed she could control him. And since having a Magi under their control has been working out so well, why not a King Candidate?

      The bunnies are leaning toward her possessing his mother. It’s not like she isn’t capable of it.

      Re: Judar and the Dungeons.

      Judar being able to enter Dungeons even with his black rukh might be another reason Al-Thamen wanted him, besides all of the other benefits of having him under their control.

      All 72 of them? Eep.

      Yeah. That’s a little too bloody.

      That would be interesting, given in canon most people have no reason to believe they’re anything but human. If so… yeah, bunnies say Alibaba’s still a headache-inducing mutt.:)

      Alibaba is definitely a headache-inducing mutt regardless of whether or not he knows it.

      The bunnies were just intrigued by all of the various quirks people could have from that non-human ancestry.

      Like if you are, say part manticore, since it has a scorpion tail, scorpion venom has no effect on you or something. And the venom of related to scorpions species, little or severely reduced.

      Some of this traits are probably purposefully sought and breed in organizations like the Sham Lash.

      Hmm. If you want that to fit in the canon framework, that should take a magician or Magic Tool involved. Mind, both of those should be possible!

      Ouch! But plausible; though apparently Al-Thamen has most of the knowledge of how to make Magic Tools. (Which, again, argh, people haven’t figured some of that out on their own in a thousand years? Sigh.)

      Nods. They are good possibilities. Outside of the Djinn and being set in the Magic Kingdom, sometimes it seems like they under-utilize magic in this setting.

      And it might be nice to see Magic Tools being used for both good and evil purposes. Like it’s not the Tool itself (usually) that is good or bad, it is how someone is using it.

      Al-Thamen vs. System Lords. Round one!

      I think I can appease them with that one and shuffle the other one into cut pile due to tone differences. Whew!

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